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Anaalys Fluuterby
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Posted - 2008.04.15 18:54:00 -
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I think someone has been pew-pewing too much and hasn't looked at the market or how things are made...
So, next time you wish to buy your T2 minnie ship and can't find any because the price of POS fuel went through the roof, don't whine on the forums. You DO realize that most of the T2 stuff you buy is built in HighSec using player-ran POSs, right? No Icefields == No Fuel, or very expensive fuel. Raise prices on things and it just makes it more likely that people will buy ISK to replace their losses.
I also think you need to train "Comprehension Of Actions" to at least level 3, so that you understand that along with taking the ill-gotten ISK they also hit the farming operations that GOT that ISK and that trail leads to other buyers.
Unless you already have "ISK Purchasing Power" to level 2 and have bought it yourself and don't want CCP to take yours, so you are instead recommending nerfing others in a plan which won't do anything...
 Originally by: Audri Fisher
On the other, the emo tears being cryed in this thread tell me that just because you shoot somebody for a living, does not mean you aren't a carebear
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.04.15 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Actally, if POS fuel became a lot more expensive and cut down on the POS spam, many 0.0 pilots would weep tears of joy.
If POS fuel got more expensive those 0.0 pilots would be told to hit the ice belts and start Pew-Pewing ice.
Those tears would be of dismay 
Originally by: Audri Fisher
On the other, the emo tears being cryed in this thread tell me that just because you shoot somebody for a living, does not mean you aren't a carebear
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.04.15 20:39:00 -
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Edited by: Anaalys Fluuterby on 15/04/2008 20:39:15
Originally by: General Spaz
Actually I created this thread so I could pull out the real carebear corps who would disagree with everything i'm saying. That way I could have a few easy wardecs to pick from...
Well since Bob and Co, and most other 0.0 alliances, pull fuel heavily from HighSec just run down there and take care of them 
And people wonder why no one posts with their mains. Jeeze.
Originally by: Audri Fisher
On the other, the emo tears being cryed in this thread tell me that just because you shoot somebody for a living, does not mean you aren't a carebear
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: General Spaz
I guess you don't see how some of these problems are related? You dont have to agree with me to see that, all you have to do is play Eve.
No, we can see that the POTENTIAL to be related is there but they aren't by default. But what you are saying is "The Queen took a bath. She caught Small Pox. Taking a bath causes Small Pox".
(by the way, actual belief in Elizabethan England and true story)
Originally by: Audri Fisher
On the other, the emo tears being cryed in this thread tell me that just because you shoot somebody for a living, does not mean you aren't a carebear
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:35:00 -
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Edited by: Anaalys Fluuterby on 15/04/2008 21:38:30
Originally by: General Spaz
No, alts are part of a problem with Eve. Real people hiding behind alter-ego's to protect thier alter ego's...
It's sad that people on the INTERNET still have issues doing things or stating thier opinions in public because they lack the testicular fortitude to be held accountable for their actions.
Funny comment coming from someone who's entire corp was founded by Alts and brag about it 
What's the name of that main?
Added:
Minmatar Mafia open for Business
Originally by: Audri Fisher
On the other, the emo tears being cryed in this thread tell me that just because you shoot somebody for a living, does not mean you aren't a carebear
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.04.15 22:00:00 -
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Ok, NOW we can start talking
Macros != ISK farmers. Shown again and again in literally hundreds of threads. TECHNICALLY ISK farming is not against the EULA; we all do it (I came back to Empire to run level 4s so I can buy ships for my pirate). MACROS are against the EULA, however.
1) I don't disagree with moving HighSec belts to exploration, at least the ones that are worth anything. That way new players can mine and get skills while older players can find better stuff. The problem with that is ISK sellers will just find the belts, THEN set their macros to continue from there. Net gain? Nothing because it is harder to suicide miners in hidden belts.
2) Moving Ice isn't an option. Simply the market impact is too great. If you moved all Ice to lowsec you would have to make alterations to allow mining barges to survive a pirate attack; either by making special corp modules that can be deployed to defend, etc. Personally I wish CCP would remove most of the "NPC" station-required things and allow PCs to offer POS services to the general public. True player-run economy there too. But driving up fuel prices will undo everything that CCP has tried to do in the last year with invention.
3) I don't care about cloaking farmers or probing non-covert ships. The only thing I would voice is that the mechanics need to alter slightly if this is done. The probes would need to give the target's location based on when the probe started, not ended. Right now when the probe stops you have 100% pinpoint on location; 2nd probe drop and any non-covert ship is dead. Make the chase last a bit.
4) Fix disconnects and you can do anything you want with aggression times.
Suggestions:
1) Harsher response to buying and link all known accounts to it. Meaning if one account doesn't have enough, raid from the rest too.
2) Bans for repeated buying.
3) They are already banning for selling.
4) Dedicated team to monitor and take care of them. More resources CAN equal more effective tactics
5) Easier petitioning, its irritating to have to open several boxes just to petition that someone was selling in local. Same with macros; never any feedback.
CCP is probably doing the best it can right now though. Most "macros" aren't anymore from what I have seen, they are actual people behind the ship or they have got a lot more effective  In the meantime we do what we can by petitioning suspected and not buying ISKies. Eventually you have ONE way to combat them; make people KNOW they will be screwed if they do buy ISK.
What I won't tolerate is people screwing over legitimate players in the name of "fixing" macros. I actually found your comment about knowing who to wardec refreshing and a nice new tactic
Originally by: Audri Fisher
On the other, the emo tears being cryed in this thread tell me that just because you shoot somebody for a living, does not mean you aren't a carebear
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.04.15 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: General Spaz
This is my main now, my "older" character is also in my corporation. I'll let you do some more investigative work to figure out which one it is.
Good enough, I really don't care either way since General Spaz is an active character...
Just found the comment funny
Originally by: Audri Fisher
On the other, the emo tears being cryed in this thread tell me that just because you shoot somebody for a living, does not mean you aren't a carebear
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